In the past week, rumors have popped up concerning Seattle’s interest in Detroit starter, Rick Porcello. In response to this, I engaged in mock trade negotiations with Tiger blogger, Brian Sakowski whose work you can find at blessyouboys.com or on twitter at @B_Sakowski.
I tried a similar project last month by trying to barter for Billy Butler, but I was unable to reach a deal. However, this time a deal was met. At the bottom, I will explain my rational for the trade.
Here are the actual trade talks. Again, I will interject my thoughts using italicized text.
Joel Condreay: Just looking at your organizational depth, it looks like you could use an infielder, so I’ll start with middle infielder Brad Miller. He should be ready to step into second base as soon as Infante’s contract expires at the end of the year.
I would probably throw in a young relief arm like Charlie Furbush since you could probably use a lefty in the pen if Coke is taking over as closer.
It would also probably take a young prospect you could dream on as well, since there aren’t any real holes to be filled at the MLB level. Maybe 19 year old Guillermo Pimentel, who has insane power potential with a lot of refining to do. (I have essentially given up on Pimentel as a prospect.)
So I’ll start with Porcello for Miller, Furbush, and Pimintel.
Brian Sakowski: Keep in mind I’m willing to move other pieces as well: I know Brennan Boesch has sparked at least moderate interest with the M’s.
Joel Condreay: Boesch doesn’t spark much in me. Seattle already has plenty of fringy outfielders.
I will be inquiring on Avisail Garcia at some point, though. (I really like Garcia. He has five-tool potential and is just 21 years old.)
Brian Sakowski: We’re interested in middle infielders, yes, but only ones who can play SS. Miller is a nice piece, but I’m not sold on him as an everyday player. We’re more interested in Nick Franklin, who we believe has a better chance to stick at SS. (While I would prefer to give up Miller over Franklin, I feel fairly comfortable losing Franklin in the right circumstances considering the good depth the organization has at the position.)
We’re intrigued by Pimentel, but we already have essentially his clone in Steven Moya. At the moment, we’re also in the market for a late innings reliever. I don’t want Furbush, you can have him.
So, here’s our counteroffer:
Rick Porcello and Avisail Garcia for Nick Franklin, Tom Wilhelmsen, Casper Wells, and Carter Capps. (I believe that Garcia is more likely to succeed than Franklin and has more positional value to Seattle than Franklin. Wells is nothing more than a fourth outfielder who can hit lefties a bit, and bullpen arms are pretty easy to replenish. However, I didn’t want to lose to young arms at the same time.)
Joel Condreay: I actually really like this deal for the most part.
The one thing is that I can’t dismantle my bullpen like that right now. I want to switch out Shawn Kelly for Tom Wilhelmsen. Kelly won’t embarrass batters like Tom will, but he will be a reliable arm in the pen.
Considering your lack of rotation depth, I can toss in someone like Hector Noesi or DJ Mitchell.
Brian Sakowski: Ok. We’re really kind of dead set on getting Wilhelmsen, but at the risk of destroying your bullpen, we’re willing to drop Capps from the deal if you toss in Victor Sanchez and Hector Noesi.
So the proposal would be: Rick Porcello and Avisail Garcia for Nick Franklin, Tom Wilhelmsen, Casper Wells, Victor Sanchez, and Hector Noesi. (There was no way that I would be giving up a second good prospect like Sanchez in this deal.)
Joel Condreay: That seems a bit steep. Instead of Sanchez, I’ll offer Jordan Shippers.
So here it is: Porcello and Garcia for Franklin, Wilhelmsen, Wells, Shippers, and Noesi.
Brian Sakowski: I’m not a big fan of Shippers. We have several fringe lefties already. (Personally, I think he may be underestimating Shippers.) What about Brandon Maurer? (Don’t worry, I never even considered putting Maurer in this deal.)
Joel Condreay: Well Maurer will have a decent shot at making the baseball America top 100 this year, so that’s not going to work. How do you feel about Anthony Fernandez?
Brian Sakowski: I’m a fan of Fernandez. I’ll do that deal if you’d like.
Porcello and Garcia for Franklin, Wilhelmsen, Wells, Fernandez, and Noesi.
Joel Condreay: You got yourself a deal, sir!
There it is: Rich Porcello and Avisail Garcia for Nick Franklin, Tom Wilhelmsen, Casper Wells, Anthony Fernandez, and Hector Noesi.
Admittedly, the deal doesn’t look great on paper, but don’t rush to judgment just yet.
Let’s take a look at Porcello. On the surface, he looks like a 3-4 starter, but I think he is more than that. His 2.9 WAR last year was comparable to players like Jered Weaver, Yovani Gallardo, Ryan Vogelsong, and C.J. Wilson.
Take a look at this blind comparison:
As you can see, Porcello is slightly worse in his strikeouts and walks, but his xFIP is a bit better. Overall, these two
pitchers are quite similar. The mystery player is CY Young finalist, Jered Weaver. Granted, Weaver didn’t deserve to be a finalist, but he was nevertheless.
Porcello has also gotten a bit unlucky over the course of his career. Last year his BABIP was .344 and his LOB% was 69%. As soon as those numbers move to reasonable levels, his ERA should drop significantly. The thing especially impressive about Porcello is his 52.3 career GB%. Last year, he was fifth in the American League in the category. The ability to get ground balls will fit especially well in Seattle.
Considering he is just 24 years old, I would say that Rick Porcello could be a solid starter in the Mariner rotation for years to come. We need a piece in the rotation, and he is the perfect solution. He is certainly preferable to Jason Vargas.
As for the prospects, I think that Seattle needs Garcia more than Franklin. Franklin has caused considerable concern with his struggles against lefties, and his glove may not even be able to stick at shortstop. He hasn’t shown great power in the upper end of the farm system either. Considering these things as well as the fact that Brad Miller is just as likely, if not more likely, to become a solid major league player, I would say that getting Garcia back for him is an excellent deal for Seattle.
Garcia, on the other hand, has already hit at the MLB level. As the 21 year-old continues to age and mature, he will only get better. He has 25/25 potential. Seattle’s farm system lacks outfield prospects with power, so Garcia could be a real difference maker. I know that most prospect lists don’t agree with me, but I think that Avisail Garcia is a better prospect for Seattle than Franklin is.
Losing Wilhelmsen was difficult, but with Capps and Pryor in the bullpen, I think the closer role will be filled quickly.
Please give me your thoughts on the deal in the comment section below.
The Mariners are desperate for bats according to several baseball reporters, and they are already in pursuit of three power hitting outfielders just a few days into 2013. These three players are Giancarlo Stanton, Justin Upton, and Andre Ethier, and Seattle is said to be in somewhat-serious talks concerning all three. Let’s look at how each player would fit in Seattle and what it would take to acquire each player.
Let’s start with Stanton. There is a lot to like about this young outfielder. He just turned 23 years old last November, and has already hit 93 homeruns in his career. There is not another young hitter in baseball that has his kind of power.
As a 22 year-old last year, he played in just 123 games but still hit 37 homeruns which ranked seventh in all of baseball. He also had the third highest OPS in baseball behind just Miguel Cabrera and Ryan Braun. Mike Trout was the only other player 24 years old or younger to reach 30 homeruns in 2012.
While this is quite bold, Giancarlo Stanton might possess once in a generation type power. Let’s compare him to Barry Bonds and Seattle’s own Ken Griffey Jr., both of whom started their historic major league careers at very young ages.
Here are the numbers from the first three seasons of each of their careers.
|Ken Griffey Jr.||
Due to past failures, many Mariner fans are afraid to invest in right-handed power hitters. However, I would not be concerned about the right-handed Stanton coming to Safeco Field for two reasons: 1) The fences are coming in which will help remedy the problem. 2) Mike Stanton has already succeeded in other bad hitters’ parks.
Sunlife Stadium, where he played his first two years, and Marlins Park, where he played last year, are both pitchers parks, but Stanton excelled anyway. In Marlins park, which measures 340 feet down the left field line, 384 to the left-center gap, and 420 to center field, he averaged a homerun every 15.4 at bats last season. There is no reason to worry about his ability to hit in Safeco Field.
Due to his young age and immense talent, there will be hefty price tag on Stanton, but the Mariners are one of just a few teams that have the farm system capable of pulling off such a deal. Bringing the Miami outfielder to Seattle would almost certainly require Taijuan Walker and several other top prospects. I am a big fan of Walker, but a ridiculous, and more importantly, a proven talent like Stanton is worth Walker.
In the past I have said that Stanton is one of just a couple guys in baseball I would even consider trading Felix for, and I don’t believe that Walker will ever be quite as successful as Felix, so it makes sense to concede Walker in this case.
Larry Stone predicted that a deal would require Walker, Hultzen, Franklin, Gabriel Guerrero, and rising star Kyle Seager. This seems like too much to me, mainly because of Seager’s involvement. If Seager could somehow be replaced with someone like Alex Liddi, Vinnie Catricala, or Stefen Romero, I would be pretty happy with the deal, although giving up Walker and Hultzen would be difficult.
A package of Walker, Paxton, Franklin, Liddi, and a few lesser prospects would be excellent for Seattle. JJ has some of his own expectations for what acquiring the 23 year-old would require, but only time will tell which expectation is most accurate.
The next player that the Mariners are connected with in trade talks is Justin Upton. Surprise surprise. We made it just three days into 2013 before Justin Upton trade rumors resurfaced. At 25 years old, Upton is also immensely talented and is also better rounded than Stanton. Upton has legitimate 5-tool talent and could still be improving. However, he is not quite the dominating force on the baseball field that Stanton is and is also much less reliable.
In 2012 he hit 18 homeruns, stole 17 bases, and posted a triple slash of .280/.355/.430. His previous season was much more impressive when he accumulated 31 long balls, 21 stolen bases, and a line of .289/.369/.529.
However, these numbers have been aided by the hitter friendly Chase Field. Take a second to analyze Upton’s home/road split over the course of his career.
|Upton at Home||67||.307||.389||.548||.399||138||.241||17.2%|
|Upton on the Road||41||.250||.325||.406||.320||96||.157||10.4%|
Unlike Stanton, Upton has not had tremendous success in difficult hitters’ ballparks.
The price tag on Upton is a bit difficult to predict. Considering that Upton trade talks have brewed for years without a deal ever being completed, it seems fair to assume that Arizona has very high expectations for a return on the young outfielder.
A few months ago, it looked like Nick Franklin would be necessary in any deal with Arizona, but the three-way trade between Arizona, Cleveland, and Cincinnati that brought Didi Gregorius to Arizona eliminated their need for Franklin.
Taijuan Walker would likely be at the center of any deal and would be accompanied by other prospects such as Paxton, Maurer, or possibly still Franklin. A Potential package might look like Walker, Paxton, and Brad Miller. If a deal arises that excludes Walker and instead includes Hultzen, it would be far preferable.
The final bat that the Mariners are said to be interested in is Andre Ethier of the Dodgers. At 30 years old, Ethier does not have the future of Stanton or Upton, and does not have their offensive stature either. Over the past three seasons, Ethier has averaged 18 homeruns per season with a slash line of .289/.361/.459. Currently, he has a decent bat, but he’s not a difference maker, and he certainly won’t swing an impact bat by 2015 or in the years after that when Seattle will hopefully be making runs into the playoffs. Trading for Ethier isn’t as practical for the future of Seattle.
The five years remaining on Ethier’s contract makes the Dodger outfielder less attractive as well. He will earn an average of 16.5 million per year until he is 35 years old. It was a bad contract for the Dodgers to agree to, and it would be an even worse contract for Seattle to take on.
It would seem unwise to bring in a 30 year-old player who they will have to give nearly 17 million for the next five years in exchange for average run production.
Although not as talented as other trade options, Ethier will also be less costly to trade for. It would probably take a top pitching prospect, but I would not surrender any more than James Paxton or Brandon Maurer in a one for one deal.
As the baseball winter meetings heat up, all Mariner fans know that the team needs offense. For the past month, Billy Butler rumors have commonly been tossed around with the Mariners, and I personally would love to bring the 26 year old all-star to Seattle.
For the last few weeks, I have been working with Michael Engel from Kings of Kauffman, which is the blog covering the Kansas City Royals here at the Fansided network, to create a mock trade negotiation for Billy Butler. My goal was to find an estimation for Billy Butler’s asking price. Keep in mind that neither of us are general managers and also may not reflect the true intentions of the organizations we were representing in the mock negotiation. I will use italics to interject some editorial comments as the negotiating goes along. Some of you may cringe at some of the offers I make or pass up, but I hope that this still proves to be informative.
Michael Engel: So you have interest in Butler. We’d need MLB-ready pitching, hopefully with a good amount of team control left. That’s the top offseason priority.
Joel Condreay: Obviously, we aren’t parting with King Felix, but Jason Vargas or Hisashi Iwakuma are both solid middle of the rotation guys we could part with. Vargas has either 1 or 2 years left, and Iwakuma has 2 left, but both should be easy to extend. ( I expect Vargas’ numbers to suffer significantly in the upcoming year due to the fences coming in, so I am not hesitant to move him while he still has a bit of value.)
Michael Engel: Vargas is an alright option, but we wouldn’t like to see him be the centerpiece of our return for Butler. He’d be perhaps a second or third piece in a potential deal though, I think.
Butler fits in very nicely in our lineup as a young player that also has a strong track record. Starting in 2009, he’s played in all but 11 games and has averaged better than 60 extra base hits. He’s shown a combination of high average and solid power and he’s not even 27 yet. We’d really like to see another arm involved and maybe an upside prospect to dream on as well if we’re sending the centerpiece of our offense. We’d prefer Taijuan Walker, but also (of course) like Danny Hultzen and James Paxton.
Joel Condreay: It would take a lot to get us to let go of Hultzen or Walker, but Paxton is do-able. I think a proven 200 inning pitcher and the 6th ranked left handed pitching prospect in baseball (according to MLB.com) would be a pretty good duel-centerpiece. Keep in mind though, that Butler has no value outside of his bat so it’d be nice to get a positional prospect in return. I’m thinking Jorge Bonifacio or Brian Fletcher.
Michael Engel: I can’t snowball you and try to sell Butler as a viable defensive first baseman, but even though all of his value is tied up in his bat – that’s one valuable bat. You just moved the fences in, right? He’s just going to put up bigger homer numbers if you were to get him in the lineup.
We’re after a pitcher we can put on the mound on Opening Day, and while we like Vargas, he’s more of a middle of the rotation guy in our eyes. Now we can get by with that if we’re also seeing an advanced minor league arm coming back – frankly Paxton and Vargas isn’t quite there for us for Butler alone. We’ve got other teams contacting us who might fit our need better, so that’s why we have to ask for at least Hultzen. (One of the main contenders at the time was the Rays, but with the signing of James Loney, they are probably no longer pursuing Butler.) We’re higher on Walker, though. Blake Beavan intrigues us as a guy to include at the back end of a potential deal, if you’re interested in moving him.
Out of curiosity though, where would the asking price come for Nick Franklin?
Joel Condreay: I’m going to work quite hard to keep Hultzen or Walker off the table for now. It’s easy to look at Paxton in the context of the other two guys and feel discontent, but he really is a great pitcher.
We could throw in Beavan, but now we are losing another rotation piece, so we would need an MLB ready pitcher back. I would like Mendoza. He doesn’t have much of a future, but he can be average enough for us for a year or two until other guys can take over. (I think that a rotation of Felix, Iwakuma, Mendoza, Ramirez, and Noesi / cheap free agent signing, while not ideal, would be tolerable should we have Butler and a decent free agent bat in our lineup.)
Giving up Franklin would take alot, but it’s not impossible. If you are interested in a middle infielder, I would recommend you look at Brad Miller. Miller actually put up better numbers in AA last year than Franklin did. He doesn’t have the upside of Franklin, but he is much less of a risk.
Michael Engel: For Butler, we really can’t do it without Hultzen at least involved. There’s still upside, but the risk is so great that Paxton doesn’t reach his potential that it’s just too steep a price to pay.
Our position is that we’re under no duress to trade Butler, so the deal has to be just right for our needs. If this was his final option season, then perhaps we’d be more open to a deal like this, but he’s got three years at better than projected market value and is our most consistent hitter. For a simple deal involving Butler, we have to have Hultzen or Walker involved.
(I know that many of you would not mind giving up Walker or Hultzen for Butler, but I have a pretty simple reason for not wanting to do so. Essentially, I think that it would be easier to find another designated hitter than can hit 30 homeruns than it would be to find another 20 year old prospect with the kind of stuff that Walker has or another lefty with the a floor as low as Hultzen has.)
Moving on, though, as I don’t think we’re miles apart.
Joel Condreay: I think that I care more about Butler coming to Seattle than most Mariner fans do. However, I simply can’t think of a way to justify giving up the #4 and #29 Prospects along with two MLB level starters for only a good DH, a journeyman, and a minor league pitcher that may never pitch again.
I’ll concede Walker (That was a painful decision), but not Franklin at the same time unless you pitch in much more.
Michael Engel: We want to make as clean a deal as we can. Our ideal move would be to deal a hitter as close to straight up for a pitcher as we can get, or, if the pitcher is right, to toss in something else. That would have to be a pitcher who would unseat Jeremy Guthrie as the opening day starter. Otherwise, if we’re trading for talent that isn’t at the big league level yet, we have to hold out for projectable arms who are close – which Hultzen, Walker and Paxton are, and we’re more sold on Hultzen and Walker. Honestly, I’m not sure where we’re able to find a fit here.
Joel Condreay: Well, I actually think that Vargas is a better starter than Guthrie and his 5.10 FIP, but it does appear that we are a ways away from an agreement.
Let me throw this much simpler deal out there: Vargas, Paxton, and Franklin for Butler and Orlando Calixte. (My basic thought process for this proposal was that some combination of Brendan Ryan, Brad Miller, Carlos Truinfel, and Orlando Calixte would mostly remedy the loss of Franklin. Since losing Vargas does not particularly concern me, the trade became Paxton for Butler in my mind.)
Michael Engel: I don’t think Vargas is the impact guy we need to have at the top of our rotation. Not for Billy Butler at least. There could be some groups of prospects we could exchange, but at this stage, we’ve got to explore other options that will allow us to bring in a first division starter for our rotation. We can’t wait on potential anymore. (If the Royals absolutely need a top of the rotation starter, Seattle won’t be able to get Butler, since Felix will be off the table.)
Joel Condreay: Fair enough.
It looks like our negotiations won’t go much farther, but I will throw one last deal on the table: Vargas, Paxton, and Dustin Ackley and some lower minor league arm for Butler, Bonifacio, and John Lamb.
Michael Engel: I can’t find a deal that satisfies me or what I think the Royals would do.
Well that was pretty anticlimactic, wasn’t it? It is fitting that we were unable to reach an agreement, because most recent reports have seemed to indicate that teams are hesitant to match what the Royals are asking for their 26 year old designated hitter.
Now that you have seen an approximate price for Butler, I would love to know if you would have accepted the deals the Engel proposed in our mock negotiation.
Please leave your thoughts, observations, and questions in the comment section below as well.
There has been a lot of talk surrounding the Mariners at the Winter Meetings. In fact, I’d say we are one of, if not the most talked about team in Nashville. The team is being linked to almost every hitter there is, and that’s not really surprising.
This is, talk is cheap. Now, I am confident Jack Z is doing everything within his power to add a bat. I can picture him running around Nashville like a crazy person, phone in hand, knocking on peoples doors, some that have nothing to do with the MLB. Unfortunately, activity does not always guarantee success. We all know how hard it is to lure hitters here, and that Jack and company will have to overpay to get someone here.
But at least we know he is trying, and that’s all we can ask for.
I am pretty neutral on this deal. I am all for reclamation projects, but I am not a fan of the guaranteed, major league contract that he was given. I am not sure that he has a chance to be much better than Casper Wells, who is the current 4th outfielder.
If other moves, hopefully for a real hitter, are made, then I have no problem with this move. But if he is the big signing for the offseason, I won’t be too happy.
Anyway, back to the rumors.
I am a fan of a move for Morse, but I don’t feel that he is the instant fix either. He has played mostly left field for Washington, but is not very good at there, and fits better as a 1st baseman who you can throw in a corner outfield spot if you need to.
There’s no doubt in my mind that he can hit however, as seen in his .303/.360/.550, .390 wOBA, 148 wRC+ line in 2011. That was his only full season, as he battled injuries last year, and didn’t get a ton of playing time in 2010. But even in those seasons he put up .340 wOBA/113 wRC+ and .377 wOBA/134 wRC+ in those seasons respectively.
I think he makes more sense coming in with a Swisher, Hamilton or Upton (who I will talk about later on), but by himself wouldn’t be too bad either. Washington is said to be seeking bullpen help, so if he could be had for one of Carter Capps or Stephen Pryor and a prospect not named James, Danny, Nick or Taijuan, I think Jack should jump all over it.
Hamilton is a guy who has grown on me. That may sound strange considering I am talking about a superstar, but I was really worried about him. And in many ways I still am. I am not a fan of him on more than a 5 year deal, and for no more than $25 million a year.
But I am now hoping the Mariners offer him just that. It is obvious now that you are going to have to overpay no matter what. So you might as well overpay for a star. Id rather give an MVP 5/125 than someone like the recently signed Shane Victorino 3/$39 million.
I also think that if you are going to go for it, then you should get another guy like Morse in addition to Hamilton. As great as he is, I think this team may be a little more than one bat away from competing, especially if the Rangers trade for Upton.
It makes a lot of sense to me. Swisher is an above average hitter, and can play both right field and 1st, which are our biggest holes on the team. He is a guy that is going to give you a .265/.365/.475 line year in and year out. Now, he is turning 32 this year, and would most likely command a 4-5 year deal, so its probably necessary to assume a small decline from that as time passes.
But his ability to draw walks and get on base is the best part of his game, and that’s very encouraging for aging guys. Plate discipline is something that tends to stick around, unlike speed and things of that nature. Even if he isn’t the best contact guy, he should continue to get on base, and provide at least 20-25 home run power for the next few years.
That, combined with the fact that he plays slightly above average defense at the team’s two weakest positions make him my favorite option. Like Hamilton, it is always best to get another bat through trade to come along with him, but he would be okay by himself.
If he can come here a 4/62, I think he makes the most sense out of anyone.
He does not make much sense to me at all. He is essentially Franklin Gutierrez mixed with 2010 Chone Figgins, and that’s not an exaggeration. He is one of the best defensive center fielders in the league (Guti) and gets most of his offensive production from his speed and decent on base ability.
If you compare Bourn’s 2012 to Figgins’s 2009, or the year before he signed here, it is scarily similar. But what’s even scarier is that Figgins was better. In 2012 Bourn hit .273/.348/.391 compared to .298/.395/.393 for Figgins. Figgins also bested him in WAR at 6.9 vs 6.4.
There is no guarantee that Bourn follows the same path, but I would argue that it is likely. Players that rely heavily, or solely in Bourn’s case, on speed, they tend to decline. I don’t think that is what Seattle needs. They need bats, and Bourn really doesn’t fit that mold, especially at $15 million a year like he will get.
If he were to come in with Upton or Butler, then I can see it. But even then, I don’t think he would be too much of an upgrade over what we have. It would be a poor use of money, and I think we would see Figgins 2.0.
Finally, there are still some Justin Upton rumors, but they have cooled down, at least involving the Mariners. It looks like the Diamondbacks and Indians are looking for an Upton-Asdrubal Cabrera trade, but need another team, or three.
So far it’s sounding like the Royals, Rangers and Rays are those other three teams and there are reports that deals have already been put into place. It is looking very unlikely that Upton will come to Seattle.
However, there have been reports that Seattle is interested in shortstop Dee Gordon. The only, and I mean ONLY, logical explanation for that is that Jack is trying to put together a package for Upton, knowing that Arizona wants a shortstop.
The problem with that is that Dee Gordon is awful. He is a below average hitter now, and most likely will never be better than average. That, combined with his below average defense make for a very invaluable player. Without his speed, he would not be in the bigs.
The Mariners have no use for him with a better version of him in Brenden Ryan, and Nick Franklin is not too far away.
Its a confusing and frustrating time. It is particularly frustrating to me because a lot of the rumors we are hearing are not very good moves as is. A move for Gordon is a waste. Bourn is not valuable to a team looking for power. We just have to stick it out and hope for the best.
It’s no secret that the Seattle Mariners are in big need of some strong offense. General Manager Jack Zduriencik is very active at the 2012 winter MLB meetings in Nashville, Tennessee.
Rumor has it that there are three prospects for pitchers for the Seattle team: Danny Hultzen, James Paxton, and Taijuan Walker who may be up for trade when the Mariners go batter-hunting. While the Mariners do have some funds freed up to pick up a free agent this year, they may still need to pull some trade strings to get someone who will work hard for their team. It boils down to a big decision for the Mariners’ team management: Trade away young, unproven prospects for players that have shown their stuff or spend more money on their payroll for the roster.
With attendance falling, and confidence in the team low, the pressure is on for Zduriencik to build a team that can compete. A lot more than bringing in the walls at SafeCo Field is necessary in order to develop a winning team. The question is, will the team be able to gain the members it needs in order to compete against big-budget teams like the New York Yankees?
If the Oakland Athletics could pull out of a slump to become the AL West Champions this past year under the logic put forth by the Billy Beane Moneyball tactics that changed the face of baseball, perhaps the Mariners need to start thinking in an out-of-the box way as well.Who will get on base, and more importantly, once on base, who will be able to get home for the all-important score?
Some of the players the Mariners are rumored to be interested in include:
- Josh Hamilton
- Justin Upton
- Mike Napoli
- Nick Swisher
- Cody Ross
- Ryan Ludwick
- Mark Reynolds
- Garrett Jones
A lot of this will be contingent upon how much the M’s are able to put forward financially and who they are willing to trade for the various players on their wish list. What do you think the beloved Seattle team should be looking at in order to get to a pennant win in the 2013 season?
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I love Top-5 lists. I think I’ve had an affinity for it since watching High Fidelity as a high school junior. Sure, I should probably have read the unadulterated book. But, I’m lazy and the ability to have John Cusak deliver me his own take on world transported from London to Chicago.
Maybe, that isn’t quite roots for where this weird obessesion began. But really that’s not important. Today, I wanted to have a little fun and do my very own Top-5 tradable assets. Now, the out come took sometime to develop and while you might not agree with my personal conclusion that’s kind of what makes it fun.
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