One of the best things about this time of year, and my role here at 12thMR, is getting invited to participate in mock drafts with draft experts from around the country. This week, I took part in a 2 round mock for FPFootball.
There were 8 people involved, one picking for every team in a division. I, of course, was picking for the teams in the NFC West.
Picking for teams other than the Seahawks in a draft like this was an interesting challenge. I tried to prepare and make sure I knew what each team needed and the types of players they prefer, but I doubt the fans of those teams will like the decisions I made.
I can say that I took picking for our division rivals seriously. A lot of these picks are ones that I hope they don’t make when the real draft finally gets here in April.
Take a look. And be sure to click the above link to see how the entire 2 round draft unfolded. Let me know in the comments how bad I did.
Strategy: Fix the offense, especially the offensive line.
Drafted Players: QB Geno Smith, OT Terron Armstead
The original plan was to select OT Eric Fisher at #7, but he came off the board before then. That also meant that when Geno Smith dropped to the Cardinals it became a no brainer. They need a franchise QB, and he’s likely the only one in this draft class.
Besides, the Cardinals were able to draft Terron Armstead in round 2. He’s a bit of a project compared to the first round tackles, but he has a high ceiling and will be better than the embarrassingly bad tackles who played the position for Arizona last season.
Strategy: Get Sam Brandford some weapons
Drafted Players: WR Tayvon Austin, S Jonathan Cyprien, TE Zach Ertz
Austin provides the Rams with instant upgrade for the offense. He’s not a classic route runner type wide receiver, but he’s still a dynamic athlete that will help Bradford. Ertz was the best player available in round 2 and made too much sense not to select. I know the Rams signed Cook in free agency, but he’s almost exclusively a receiver and offers nothing in terms of in-line blocking. Ertz adds an element that is missing in the offense, as well and just being an overall talent upgrade for the roster.
Jonathan Cyprien is a pick that will likely get some “what the heck?” comments. After Austin was taken, Cyprien gave me a chance to change the script by taking who I thought was the best player available. Safety isn’t a huge need for the Rams, but getting Cyprien gives them a young safety to pair with their young CBs and D-line as they build that defense for the future.
Strategy: Seahawks only have 1 pick in the first 2 rounds. Make it count by getting a playmaker.
Drafted Players: Khaseem Greene, OLB – Rutgers
Greene was a player I didn’t think would be available at #56. He’s an outstanding OLB who, like the other starting LBs in Seattle, is versatile enough to play multiple LB spots. Good against both the run and in coverage, Greene would give Seattle one of the best 4-3 linebacking groups in the entire NFL. I was more interested in getting a starting 3-tech DT, but none were on the board that I was comfortable taking at this spot.
Strategy: Fix the secondary, especially safety.
Drafted Players: S Matt Elam, CB Desmond Trufant, WR Quinton Patton
Elam was the best safety on the board, and will start right away. Trufant further upgrades their secondary, which is the closest thing to a weakness you’ll find in the 49ers defense.
Patton at the end of round 2 was good value, and provided them with another option at WR, where they need additional talent around their young QB. Thought about taking TE Travis Kelce here to replace the recently departed Delanie Walker, but Patton was above him on my draft board and also filled a need.
I just finished my first mock draft and it was an interesting experience. I’m not somebody who follows draft boards and college players very closely. There are so many of them and the chances of a certain player ending up on your team are very small. Therefore, unless one is genuinely interested in all aspects of the draft, I see it as a waste of time.
That being said, this mock draft was set up as a “war room” with a committee of people for each team which I actually liked. As somebody who didn’t know individual players per se, I found other ways to contribute. I feel like I have a very good idea of what Seattle currently needs, and what type of player would fit into the Pete Carroll system. So I tried to keep everybody on the game plan of drafting by position needed, instead of just the best player that looked good at the moment.
My one negative was that this draft took way too long. It started on Thursday and went all the way to Monday. Each team had up to three hours to make their picks and so the window for our draft pick could vary widely. I’d lock that down if I were the organizer.
At the outset, we decided our needs were (in general order) defensive tackle or end, weak-side linebacker, tight end, offensive guard or tackle, cornerback, safety, and wide receiver. We also realized we had more picks than roster spots so we felt we had some flexibility and could afford to bundle picks together to move up into the middle rounds, which we did twice.
In the end (after all trades), our picks were 1.28, 2.26, 3.25, 3.29, 4.28, 5.05, 5.30 and 7.25.
We tried to move out of the first round all together since we picked so late and figured our first target of Kawann Short (DT) from Purdue would be there for us in the early second. We arranged a trade twice with Detroit but they reneged both times. In the end we took Short with the 1.28 pick (traded 1.25 to Denver) which was a reach, but he was our target and filled a need. We stuck to the plan and got an instant upgrade to the defensive line.
The targets for our next two picks were weakside lineback and tightend but we once again didn’t pick until late in the second. At 2.26 we took Khaseem Greene who fit what we figured was Seattle’s ideal WLB. I wasn’t high on Alec Ogletree as some others were, but he went earlier anyway. Greene was a solid pick and the person we were targeting anyway.
Next up we wanted a TE. Ideally, it was going to be Travis Kelce from Cincinnati. He is a do-it-all tightend that we figured could free up Zach Miller to be more of an offensive threat. Unfortunately, Kelce was snatched before he got to us so we adapted.
With the 25th pick of the third round we took Tyrann Mathieu (CB) from LSU. He brings controversy and some off-field issues but we liked his ball-hawking nature and recognized a need at slot-corner. We figured Carroll could get Mathieu on the straight and narrow and took a chance. We also saw him as a kick returner for the probable departure of Leon Washington. (This was pre-Percy Harvin which was never in the realm of possibility to us at this point.)
Four picks later, at 3.29 (we traded three picks to New England to move back into the third), we finally got our TE. Vance McDonald from Rice was our player at this draft position. He fit the physical multi-threat mold we were looking for. Tyler Eifert and Zach Ertz were too one dimensional for our tastes and if they came to use we probably would have gone elsewhere. McDonald provides a lot of mismatch opportunities against the defense and would be a great compliment to Miller.
At this point in the draft, my knowledge of players got pretty thin to non-existent. This is where I would look into suggested players by Keith, Joe and Nick but primarily tried to keep us on track for filling needs. I also was a big advocate in pushing us away from drafting a wide receiver as I personally don’t want more 5’1’’ to 6’1’’ guys. If we got a receiver, which we eventually did, I wanted to pick a receiver that could be physical and get downfield.
At 4.28 we drafted Lavar Edwards (DE) from LSU. Edwards was seen as an option to take over for the now departed Jason Jones and as a player that could help provide an inside pass rush.
Just a few picks later with the fifth pick of the fifth round, we picked Chris Faulk (OT), also from LSU. I had urged us, and we had tried to improve the offensive line earlier, but our targeted players kept getting picked right before us, and the remaining value wasn’t worth it to pick on OT/OG that early. That being said, we see Faulk as a potential Breno Giacomini replacement and terrific run blocker. Keith has him rated as late-third early-fourth quality so it was a steal for us in the fifth. Hopefully he would ge fewer penalties.
Between 5.05 and our next pick at 5.30 (acquired from Atlanta for 5th, 7th, and 2013 7th round picks) we learned that Seattle had acquired Percy Harvin and I internally relished in the fact that we had yet to draft a wide receiver, especially a smaller sized one, considering we just traded for one of the best in the league. Instead we drafted Corey Fuller (WR) from Virginia Tech. Fuller is 6’2’’, so still smaller, but is fast and can stretch defenses down field, similar to a Ricardo Lockette go-route that Seattle would run a few times a game. Fuller is raw and will need time, but we also saw the potential for him to help right away on special teams.
With our final pick, at 7.25, we took Ray Ray Armstrong (S) from Miami (Fl.). We had been looking for a safety to potentially back up Earl Thomas or replace Kam Chancellor in a few years, and we got him with our last pick. Armstrong hits like Chancellor, which we love, and can cover TEs and WRs across the middle. It will take him a few years, but luckily we have that to spare, if Armstrong even made the roster.
Overally, I think we came away with solid picks. We weren’t flashy and didn’t talk ourselves up, like some of the other managers (looking at you San Francisco) but we came in with a plan. We stuck with it, filled our perceived gaps, and took good players that we thought would fit into Seattle’s always compete but high-character quality system.
Behind every pick there is a 50+ email long chain and many discussions. As a team though, there was limited argument and a generally shared goal. I relied largely on other members’ knowledge of individual players and I like to think I kept us from drifting too far down unproductive rabbit holes for players and positions we didn’t need. I probably wouldn’t ever do a mock draft solo, but I’d definitely do one as a team again (hopefully taking up less time).
I like to think Pete Carroll and John Schneider would approve of our logic, goals, and outcome. I’m proud of it and I think that the Seahawks post-draft would be better than pre-draft.
Here is a list of the trades that took place during the draft.
1.28 From Broncos for pick 1.25 (mock)
3.29 From Patriots for picks 5.25, 4.26, 7.14 (mock)
4.28 From Broncos for pick 1.25 (mock)
5.05 From Raiders for LB Aaron Curry (official)
5.30 From Falcons for picks 6.26, 7.08, 2013 7th Round (mock)
7.08 From Bills for QB Tarvaris Jackson (official)
7.14 From Saints for LB Barrett Ruud (official)
Another Tuesday, another mock draft pick to consider. This one is from the mind of Josh Sanchez and is posted on Fansided.com.
It seems that the only thing I’m seeing mocked to the Seahawks in the 1st round these days are WR and LB. The WR mocks make the most sense (LB certainly doesn’t), but I believe that the biggest need the Seahawks have is at DT. We’ll see, part of it is that there has to be a suitable talent at the point that the Seahawks pick.
You should also notice that in this mock they have the Seahawks picking at #26, meaning they have the Seahawks winning a playoff game. I like that prediction.
26. Seattle Seahawks – Terrance Williams, Wide Receiver, Baylor
Williams brings the size and speed to be a number one receiver at the next level. With Russell Wilson going above and beyond the expectations, it is time to surround the young signal-caller with talent.
I like this pick. Keenan Allen was off the board already so there’s no reason to question why the Seahawks might pass over the best receiver in the draft. The question then comes as to which receiver is #2. Williams is definitely a candidate for that designation, though he isn’t #2 on my board.
I’m not going to complain though. At least it isn’t Tavon Austin from West Virgina. I’ve seen way too many mocks with him going in the first round. He’s got serious speed, but he’s 5-8. If Austin ends up as more than just a kick returner in the NFL I’ll be surprised.
Williams isn’t nearly as fast, but he’s got good hands and runs good routes for a WR of his size and speed. He’s the type of player that could really make a difference in this offense.
I told you think was going to become a weekly feature for Tuesdays, did I not? This week, we’ll take a look at this draft which is featured currently on Fansided.com.
This draft, like many others, has the Seahawks taking a WR. I like the idea of the Seahawks taking a WR early, but I don’t think it’ll happen. Do the Seahawks need an early round WR to improve the offense? Yes, I think they do. But I also think that Pete Carroll loves his defense, and will use the first round pick on a DT.
Lets get to the pick:
23. Seattle Seahawks – Keenan Allen – WR/California
Seattle is one of those teams on the cusp and is in what is shaping up to be the next great division in the NFC. But if they want to compete they need a true No. 1 receiver and that’s Keenan Allen. He’s tall, he’s productive and the only reason his stock isn’t higher is because he’s on an awful team. But if he can put up big numbers on a bad Cal team, Seahawks fans (and Russell Wilson) will love him in Seattle.
If this actually happens I will be seen doing backflips for a month. Getting Allen, at this point in the draft, would be such a draft steal that I can’t even describe it. Allen is the best WR in the draft. Period. He’s a true #1 receiver.
Getting a guy like Allen would mean amazing things to the Seahawks. Teams could no longer stack the line to stop Lynch. Sydney Rice would almost never see a double team. Wilson would have a guy who would be open on almost every play. Even the TE would be better, since they’d be covered by LBs more (and safeties less) since the S would be needed to double team Allen.
But alas, it wont happen. Allen dropping outside the top 10 isn’t likely. Dropping outside the top 20 would be a complete miracle.
The first FanSided 2013 NFL Mock Draft of the year has been released.
The guys at Fansided.com have released the first of their weekly mock drafts. Yes, it’s a little early to get too wrapped up in draft coverage, but I can’t help getting into it a little bit, even now. Lets face it, the draft is awesome, and I love covering it.
Before we get to the pick, notice that the Seahawks are picking 21st. That means that the author expects the Seahawks to be a playoff teams. That’s definitely not certain anymore, but that’s a topic for another article.
Here’s the pick:
21. Seattle Seahawks – Anthony Barr|LB/UCLA
Barr’s not the top linebacker in the draft, as C.J. Mosley and Alec Ogletree will get looks as well, but Pete Carroll knows Barr from his USC days and Carroll likes going with guys he knows. Plus, Barr is a beast of a prospect and can chase people from sideline to sideline.
You can tell the author doesn’t follow the Seahawks very closely, or at all. Carroll has actually avoided USC guys for the most part. Remember the Taylor Mays craziness? If that’s the case, why would he show any loyalty to UCLA guys? I get that the Mike Williams signing caused this misconception, but seriously, it’s not true.
As for the pick, there’s very little to like about this selection. Thats not a slight on Barr. He’s a interesting LB prospect, but he’s not the LB the Seahawks need. The Seahawks need a weak side LB who can cover backs out of the backfield and help set the edge at the point of attack, and Barr isn’t that guy. Barr is a run stopping tackler, something the Seahawks already have.
I really don’t like the value of this pick either. I have Barr rated in the 2nd round. Somewhere around the late 60′s or early 70s. There’s a decent chance that Barr is around in the 2nd round when the Seahawks pick. Yes, I know, people said that about Bruce Irvin last year, but he’s a pass rusher. Pass Rushers go early. Run stoppers don’t. If anything they go later than their talent would indicate.
Plus, I just can’t believe the Seahawks will take a LB in the top half of the draft. Do they need a LeRoy Hill replacement? Sure, but that doesn’t mean the Seahawks will be desperate about it. This defensive scheme doesn’t highlight the LBs. KJ Wright was a 4th rounder. I expect whoever is drafted to replace Hill will likely be taken around the same spot.
The Seahawks simply have bigger needs; wide receiver (or 2), a dominant defensive tackle, and TE are all bigger needs, and more likely uses of a first round pick.
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