Below you are about to be absorbed into my own little world. One that I’ve taken the better half of … oh well… let’s just pretend it’s been two weeks and not the last two months, because that’s just sad.
This is strictly of my own opinion, take it at face value, which is worth nothing. I understand no one cares how I would improve the Mariners and that in general most of my theories for roster construction are really just a mish mash of other brilliants minds at work.
Be prepared to be completely disappointed. I, like many others, love talking trades. I love discussing how to make this team better simply because, My Lord they are awful this past year, but really I can’t believe they are as bad as they really are. As I’ve previously discussed my sole goal for this team is to do the following:
- A) I want to give this team a trampoline. The goal is to give them the opportunity to bounce forward from this point. Start this coming year as a 77-80 win team and give them the opportunity to better themselves to becoming an 85-90 win team. Next year starts this year.
- B) You can’t move forward without talent. I’m not just talking about acquiring talent either, it’s about cultivating and helping it grow towards being healthy and productive. The Mariners are never going to compete, let me reiterate this for everyone, NEVER going to compete again unless they can eventually grow internal talent. Doug Fister was good, Dustin Ackley is of course way better, but there needs to be less gap time between the time periods and more players. Really, what this team needs to figure out is how to grow position players and while you need to give them time you need to have the talent to step in for if those young guys fail.
- C) With growing talent it means keeping it. My goal is to keep as much internal talent possible while moving forward. This is extremely difficult and it relies on… more risk. You can’t get premier talent without giving up premier talent but you can acquire certain individuals that are available around the league for less than they potentially could be worth. This takes a lot of time and is a huge risk. But the important thing is all your giving away is at bats. The talent you have to give up to get them was hardly negligible. Bottom line: I hate giving away young cost controlled arms for risk/reward situations. There is a time to hold ‘em and a time to … well deal them. I see few moves that could should be made by dealing away any of the young arms the Mariners have collected to this point.
- D) I know Seattle fans are looking at the potential 20 million dollars and they feel like finally they can spend it. Oh they have the money free right now and it’s already starting to burn a hole in their pocket. The unfortunate truth is we can’t just throw that at the “best” guy possible. They have to spend it wisely or be doomed to repeat more of the mid -2000’s. Likewise it means acquiring talent that is on the mend that other teams have deemed “too much time to invest or too pricey due to lack of production” some call it dumpster diving others call it investing. We need to come away from this season with more money in our pockets next year. As I continue to say getting to .500 is easy. Once we’re there it’s going to take money or prospects to make that last push. We’ll discuss that more as we get into the free-agent section.
Without further ado I give you my EPIC king of the off-season post.
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In case you missed there was officially 6 roster transactions taken by the Mariners today:
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Update: The Mariners just announced that Chris Giminez has been placed on the 15 day DL, and that Josh Bard has been recalled and will start in tonight’s game. No word yet, on who was removed from the 40 man roster so that Bard could be … [visit site to read more]
Dear Torii Hunter,
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I’ve seen a lot of people mention how much they dislike Miguel Olivo this past year. But, common did you really think that this was going to be a good solution? I mean there was some brightsides to look on and I know I’ve tried to stay hopeful hopeful but did you really think this was going to work out? At best he was going to hit for a bit of power and hopefully be an above average defensive catcher.
Last week, Olivo manged to get on base on only 3 occasions, all of them hits none of which were extra base hits. There is also the fact that he has been pretty much the worst defender behind the plate in all of baseball. Yeah, so things aren’t exactly working out the way we thought. Not that anyone imagined sugarplums.
Good thing we have all that catching depth.. oh yeah. We don’t have any depth.
Well, where is Rob Johnson when you need him, huh? Just kidding.
But seriously, where do we go from here and what can the Mariners do? I suppose there are a few league wide trade targets, but here is my suggestion.
When I posted the Social Experiment I did so with a specific purpose in mind. I wanted to talk about the subtle differences between two different players that were in competition for a roster spot, which one of them will win.
But a problem remained, I had already had my up my mind made up, despite that the stats had small differences in other players favor. So I took the measurable differences and asked you to vote on them. Pretty overwhelmingly you all voted for “guy #2″, which is who I had voted for also.
When comparing minute detailed stats I personally care about two things, walks and defense. The batting average wasn’t enough to off-set and I can sacrifice strike outs more often when he has an increased walk percentage. The case with those strikeouts usually being he takes a lot of pitches (not always the case but it’s a sign). He is working counts and the fact that he is barely (and only ever so slightly) a better defender makes this an easier call.
After the jump I reveal who is who.
Guy #1 would be Josh Bard. Who was basically the Mariners back-up catcher last year. Despite some poor stats. I was mildly impressed with a few things that he did and maybe it’s because I’m a sucker for a switch hitting catcher or that the Mariners were just so unbelievably bad that I stopped remembering the bad and have a few rare sunshine moments with Bard. Whatever the reason. I’m partial to Bard because of it.
Guy #2 is Chris Gimenez. I never really cared for the signing. I kind of thought of Gimenez as more of an “Indian” guy and felt like the new regime was just bringing in a guy that they were more familiar with in regards to the system. I never really thought of him as a real catcher but the more I look at the more I’m intrigued.
Gimenez while being able to play multiple positions I believe can play them without embarrassing himself. What we’ve “seen” so far there is a chance he could play a passable catcher. Here is a scouting report of him from 2009. Overall he is what he is, a super utility guy. But as I continually say, there is value in that. He nearly has a 1:1.7 walk to strike out ratio and he has a bit of pop in his bat.
I’m still not sold on Gimenez being able to regularly catch. But, with Moore behind the plate now and Olivo on his way back from injuries do you really worry about how much Gimenez will have to catch? Instead he seems like maybe he would just provide some early versatility to begin the season, maybe an okay pinch hitter for someone like Brendan Ryan or Jack Wilson in the later innings and if needed he could relieve Adam Moore if something were to happen.
If it came down to being a regular every other day catcher job. I would just feel more comfortable with Bard behind the plate. He seemed to do a half way decent job and while there are about 50+ catchers around the league that are probably better defensively. In my opinion he is the better of the two. Outside of the two year sample size.
Bard can still walk and he puts the ball in play quiet frequently. He has a bit of pop and being a switch hitter he can help with match-up situations. Looking at his time in Cleveland+San Diego (basically everything prior to 2008) he can possible give you what you hope for from a back-up catcher.
Just my thoughts.
What do you all think of your votes? Now knowing the context would you still vote for Gimenez?
By now most of you have heard about the injury sustained by Mariners catcher Miguel Olivo over the weekend. It was announced today that Olivo has a strained abductor muscle with no timetable on his return. Obviously the next guy in line is Adam Moore, but he was sick today as well and the Mariners used Chris Gimenez today in their 6-3 victory over the A’s.
Most of the focus today in the press was on Felix Hernandez and his first outing this spring,which actually was a bit rocky as the King got lit-up for 5 hits and a run before being pulled after 2 2/3 innings. And of course a lot of attention was paid towards Michael Pineda the young phenom who continues to impress people including today’s outing where he went a couple innings and once again did not allow a run, as the Mariners improved to 4-4-1 this year.
But somehow the media does not seem to be to interested in:
who looked good behind the plate today and drove-in a run with a double as well as forcing in another run on a bases-loaded walk. Gimenez is another ex-Cleveland guy ( starting to see a pattern here) who at 28-years old is pretty much playing for survival at this point. Gimenez was signed as a minor league free agent on Dec. 14th and has 73 games in the Majors under his belt. Gimenez as you can tell by the quick video interview I got while I was down in Peoria, is a nice guy with a good attitude who may have inadvertently found himself a job as the #2 or 3 catcher for the Mariners.
One thing that Chris Gimenez has going for him that Josh Bard does not, is his ability to play other positions in the field due to his overall athletic ability. I’m pulling for the kid to get a break and be one of those surprise guys coming out of camp I was alluding to a few weeks back. At this point it will be up to him to continue to play well and see how things go from there.I guess just the fact that his name is not Rob Johnson ought to give Mariners fans something to cheer about! Speaking of Johnson, I read that 40-year old veteran catcher Greg Zaun who was trying to hang in their for another season with the Padres has decided to retire. This puts none other than Rob Johnson in position to capture the spot as the back-up catcher with the Padres now. Funny how a few days can change things so fast in the game of baseball, stay tuned as more will be revealed! Go M’s! www.jeffsmariners.com